Comments on: MMORPG-FPS: The MMO-hybrid http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:01:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: kteial http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-234803 kteial Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:37:10 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-234803 The author has this all wrong. First of all there was one good mmorpg fps hybrid out there called neocron, but it is way outdated and it's developers ran it into the ground by forcing overspecialization when their player base was already dwindling because of it's age. If the game is good, they will come. Face of mankind was utter crap if you actually played it. Planetside has no rpg elements really, at least no more than most other shooters. The main issue makers of this game face is (with the lack of high production quality being a side effect of this) is that it is difficult to do in a way that easily attracts new players. FPS's already carry a lot of frustration for new gamers, who are defeated by more experienced twitch gamers. Placing on top of that players who are higher level and therefore harder to kill makes things even worse. Such a game would have to follow an entirely different untested formula from either mmorpgs or current FPS'es. IMO the key is to make it like FPS's in style. Combat must play out fairly quickly and rely on skilled movements and shooting rather than number trading. There should be a lot riding on a death - and it should always be POSSIBLE to win even against stronger opponents with critical hit locations or just lucky critical strikes or both. If your a level 5 and your weapon is a disrepaired nailgun, you don't have a lot to lose but if you get lucky and shoot through a kink in that lvl 50 griefer's power armor your going to have some serious loot on your hands. But no worry for the level 50 because the economy would reflect this style as well, and more of the items could be created without a million hours of play time. The author has this all wrong. First of all there was one good mmorpg fps hybrid out there called neocron, but it is way outdated and it’s developers ran it into the ground by forcing overspecialization when their player base was already dwindling because of it’s age.

If the game is good, they will come. Face of mankind was utter crap if you actually played it. Planetside has no rpg elements really, at least no more than most other shooters.

The main issue makers of this game face is (with the lack of high production quality being a side effect of this) is that it is difficult to do in a way that easily attracts new players. FPS’s already carry a lot of frustration for new gamers, who are defeated by more experienced twitch gamers.

Placing on top of that players who are higher level and therefore harder to kill makes things even worse. Such a game would have to follow an entirely different untested formula from either mmorpgs or current FPS’es.

IMO the key is to make it like FPS’s in style. Combat must play out fairly quickly and rely on skilled movements and shooting rather than number trading. There should be a lot riding on a death – and it should always be POSSIBLE to win even against stronger opponents with critical hit locations or just lucky critical strikes or both. If your a level 5 and your weapon is a disrepaired nailgun, you don’t have a lot to lose but if you get lucky and shoot through a kink in that lvl 50 griefer’s power armor your going to have some serious loot on your hands.

But no worry for the level 50 because the economy would reflect this style as well, and more of the items could be created without a million hours of play time.

]]> By: chris http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-98283 chris Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:23:02 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-98283 the best i have played like this is RYL 2 was great game . only downfall was is game had so many bugs in it and was laggy . there are many private servers out there today still. Also there is some that have recoded the whole game this ones not that bad many new maps. http://www.ruinsofwar.com/ this is the last version i played the best i have played like this is RYL 2 was great game . only downfall was is game had so many bugs in it and was laggy . there are many private servers out there today still. Also there is some that have recoded the whole game this ones not that bad many new maps.

http://www.ruinsofwar.com/

this is the last version i played

]]> By: Meh http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-92548 Meh Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:36:04 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-92548 Fallen Earth Post Apocalyptic MMORPG-FPS. Think Fallout 3 MMO. The design is pretty nice, the way you switch in and out of FPS mode sorta thing. and I'm a fan of the post apoc genre Fallen Earth Post Apocalyptic MMORPG-FPS. Think Fallout 3 MMO. The design is pretty nice, the way you switch in and out of FPS mode sorta thing. and I’m a fan of the post apoc genre

]]> By: asdasdasd http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-44563 asdasdasd Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:52:24 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-44563 TF2 sourcecraft mod is exactly what you are talking about, its not an mmo but paly it and you understand what it would look like. Very addictive very fun a whole new kind of game. TF2 sourcecraft mod is exactly what you are talking about, its not an mmo but paly it and you understand what it would look like.

Very addictive very fun a whole new kind of game.

]]> By: Keith http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-42170 Keith Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:37:23 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-42170 There is an MMORPG-FPS out there now. It's Air Rivals/Ace Online and it's F2P and, dare I say, actually good? Great in fact. There is an MMORPG-FPS out there now. It’s Air Rivals/Ace Online and it’s F2P and, dare I say, actually good? Great in fact.

]]> By: Josh http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-40704 Josh Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:10:58 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-40704 Sony Infantry: EOL. CTF and KOTH. about 15 different classes: infantry, hvy weapons, engineer, medic, stealth, etc. As you play you can increase ur persons HP, speed, agility (accelleration), stealth, strength, energy, etc. certain attributes are required to unlock certain classes. Sony Infantry:

EOL. CTF and KOTH. about 15 different classes: infantry, hvy weapons, engineer, medic, stealth, etc. As you play you can increase ur persons HP, speed, agility (accelleration), stealth, strength, energy, etc. certain attributes are required to unlock certain classes.

]]> By: Josh http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-40529 Josh Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:22:04 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-40529 Sony Infantry Online Zone: EOL Sony Infantry Online

Zone: EOL

]]> By: Tony http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-39828 Tony Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:11:14 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-39828 Global Agenda is the closest thing to that. I've been looking forward to a MMOFPS also. Even though GA isint first person, it comes closest to what I'm looking for. The 3rd person view might actually better to better know your surroundings. However, it's only in beta at the moment. Global Agenda is the closest thing to that. I’ve been looking forward to a MMOFPS also. Even though GA isint first person, it comes closest to what I’m looking for. The 3rd person view might actually better to better know your surroundings. However, it’s only in beta at the moment.

]]> By: Mike http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-37985 Mike Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:12:26 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-37985 I have been working on a MMO RPG-RTS-FPS hybrid. I call the genre MMO FPRPSS (First Person Role Playing Strategical Shooter). Currently, plans include both Space-based and Planet-Based combat, merged PvE/PvP combat & questing, a multi-layered player organization system, 21 Player Races and 28 Primary Factions, a Dynamic Tech Tree, Dynamically-Active GROWING Universe, with only one Game World (as opposed to dozens of copies like EQ or WoW). Expect release 5-10 years after I win the lottery. I have been working on a MMO RPG-RTS-FPS hybrid.

I call the genre MMO FPRPSS (First Person Role Playing Strategical Shooter).

Currently, plans include both Space-based and Planet-Based combat, merged PvE/PvP combat & questing, a multi-layered player organization system, 21 Player Races and 28 Primary Factions, a Dynamic Tech Tree, Dynamically-Active GROWING Universe, with only one Game World (as opposed to dozens of copies like EQ or WoW).

Expect release 5-10 years after I win the lottery.

]]> By: voc http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-30097 voc Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:31:49 +0000 http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/06/10/mmorpg-fps-the-mmo-hybrid/#comment-30097 darkfall baby and face of mankind coming back 2 tabula rasa never heard of it but wish i had but if they did allot of work to it it may come back video looked good at there site http://www.playtr.com/index.html theres another one with clans and such i cn being made cant remember its name it looked good.hmmm i so much enjoyed f.o.m in open beta and so much in retail it wasn't the same but with its rebirth maybe itll regain its old appeal but mix f.o.m and planet side and youll have a game that would take us all to the next level....... darkfall baby and face of mankind coming back 2 tabula rasa never heard of it but wish i had but if they did allot of work to it it may come back video looked good at there site http://www.playtr.com/index.html theres another one with clans and such i cn being made cant remember its name it looked good.hmmm i so much enjoyed f.o.m in open beta and so much in retail it wasn’t the same but with its rebirth maybe itll regain its old appeal but mix f.o.m and planet side and youll have a game that would take us all to the next level…….

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