But let’s analyze the reasons why. AOC was doomed from the beginning, at the moment a good 25% of it’s players are lvl 80 and are waiting for the end game content that tghe devs will produce perhaps post release of the game.

Some classes however require a shit load of grinding for this same game while other classes require very little.

There is no main city.

Combat functionality blows

Buggy Instances, quests, graphics, I fell through the ground and fell into a big white void (In Game Tester talk we call that a boundary issue)

It took me a half an hour to figure out how to set my 22” HD Wide Screen Monitor to a setting that didn’t pancake the game.

Where is all the content they spoke of pre-release o.O?

Now the way I see it, the reason all these fatass AOC lovers are defending their game is because psychologically they feel threatened when others question the integrity of an investment that they made that has happened to peak their interests.

It is an issue of acceptance. If these gamers are hearing that someone prefers another game over theirs for (X) reasons, then they are perceiving that as an attack upon themselves. They see it as an attack on their tastes, their investments in the game, and will therefor fire back thusly.

Listen guys, it’s not a secret anymore, AOC simply…sucks….letitgooooo =o!

Hey maybe a year from now it will clean up it’s act, get better and will become the darling of the MMO-verse
~_^! But until that time I think I am going to stick with Lotro =). By the way, as interesting as Warhammer looks, I have seen those dudes that play that fucking game. Yeah….Their ass fatass dickheads who build tiny models and paint them, or buy the steal diecast metal ones from those hobby shops <_<; If those same fuckheads are playing that game then I am nowhere near interested in what it has to offer.

What you need to think about is, if a game is catering to an audience of people you personally arn’t down with, why play it?

Touching on WOW…uuuuhm… It is what it is, Blizzard seems to have the right ideas, I mean people can say whatever they want about the game… but Blizzard is making tons of money off it, etc. Now when people say Lotro is a WOW clone, and is far inferior… lets analyze that statement… Yeah I guess Lotro is inferior because it doesn’t have the In Game Chuck Norris Joke Channel o.O? I guess WOW’s cartoony graphics are totally uber over Lotro’s very well designed environment? I guess uuuhm, that the lack of a decent story line and a big grinding quest game is better then an epic tale written 80+ years ago by one of the premier story tellers/authors of the 19th century?

Cmon now guys, WOW is cool but the bottom line is is that the game is based off of a strategy game the originated in the late 90’s man xD! How in depth could it be, seriously xD! I mean hey I am just as “down” for Arthas and his Frostmor, as, the next guy?? But the Lotro epic is simply much more interesting a storyline for me, personally.

If anyone wants to respond negatively to my rather long post, uuuhm, well, might want to consider going out for a brisk jog, you know, lose some weight, try doing something constructive with your life, oooh, a shower, thats a good idea! Go take a shower =o!

- Peace ~_^ :Omalley: (Former GM/Tester)

the state lotro whas released in whas a nightmare, way worse than aoc imo, i left 2 days after i tried lotro when it whas released.. and felt it whas the biggest crap game ever made in history..

but a lot have changed, and im sure aoc will change aswell, just give the game some time..

now lotro is my main mmo.

Both of these reasons are key reasons that I doubt I’ll be a AoC subscriber past the relase of Warhamer: Age of Reckoning.

Instant Gratification sucks, when you work for things you appreciate them more.

Also, did you ever stop to think that the journey from 1-Max Level is what teaches you about the game, your class, meet others, grouping to quest and do instances and all that?? We’ve all seen the nubs that buy a Max Level toon running around with no idea how to play their class…is that what you are advocating? you want to be a Max Level nub that everyone else laughs at??

I think LoTRO is an excellent casual MMORPG. Its one of the very few I can come and go back into without the constant raiding pressure of WoW. LoTRO is also the only MMORPG that I actually WANTED to start a new toon right after dinging 50 with my first toon. WOW took me months. I avoided AOC because of all the negative reports on how the game was an unfinished POS from a lot of my mates that were playing it. Instead, I took up Vanguard last week and am enjoying it a lot. I particularly like the way its not a game that panders to morons and is a lot more complex than the games that are built so that a 10 year old can play them successfully like WOW, LoTRO etc. I keep hearing that its a POS that is bugged and unplayable….but suprisingly I haven’t had a single CTD or found a single bugged quest and runs very well on my rig with most of the eye candy on.

Maybe the bigger question is and should be ‘What do we want from our new generation of MMOs?’. Darkfall gets a lot of mentions but is only so much vapourware at the moment. I do really like the way they are going, well what they are stating they will do, in regards to dynamic questing. That to me is next generation right there. Not 5 gimmicking buttons.

LoTRO has tons more content. I admit, I’m a Middleearth fan. The game has all the great stuff from Tolkiens books, great quests(uhm, some are the kill 10 rats) that has epic standards and a storyline that goes parallel with the books.
Well functional UI, crafting and trading system. Instances that works. And who said LoTRO lacks pvp? Play monster or your char from lvl 40(uhm best 50 and then we are back to the 100+h game). But at least as monster you can play from lvl 10 and have tons of fun.
I even belive that some even don’t play their freep(-eople), but constantly play PvMP and progress their monster.

AoC is a real eye treat, but it lacks content.

/squish

It was all a joke. “He used the words “LOTRO” and “Better” in the same sentence.

We all know that was for laughs..
Geez…you people take things too seriously!

While leveling my 3th toon in Wow i did almost only instances, it was real fun. If you take out the social part of a mmorpg it becomes what? A boring single player game?
Game designer should focus in creating entertaining experiences from level 1 to X