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	<title>Comments on: AoC: Yep, it really did halve its population in 3 months</title>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-10987</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as i know WoW&#039;s lunch wasn&#039;t too good afterall 
So I am still gona play Aoc, and I think it&#039;s a really good game ...
Bugs will be fixed and so on so don&#039;t think wrong about AOC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as i know WoW&#8217;s lunch wasn&#8217;t too good afterall<br />
So I am still gona play Aoc, and I think it&#8217;s a really good game &#8230;<br />
Bugs will be fixed and so on so don&#8217;t think wrong about AOC</p>
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		<title>By: MuTe</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-9485</link>
		<dc:creator>MuTe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like AOC due to the new combat style that it has. i don&#039;t like to click and stuck or whatever... aoc turned pvp and fighting to another lvl.. and it has very good dungeons that actually interact with the player not just a big boss w8ing 4 u.i played rf online everquest 2, anarchy, guild wars, star wars galaxies vanguard and this, aoc has the best fighting gameplay and gore and best dungeons and star wars galaxies has real player towns everywhere u want them to be build with taxes mayors etc.etc. which is very fun, but classic style combat, i call it &quot;click and done&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like AOC due to the new combat style that it has. i don&#8217;t like to click and stuck or whatever&#8230; aoc turned pvp and fighting to another lvl.. and it has very good dungeons that actually interact with the player not just a big boss w8ing 4 u.i played rf online everquest 2, anarchy, guild wars, star wars galaxies vanguard and this, aoc has the best fighting gameplay and gore and best dungeons and star wars galaxies has real player towns everywhere u want them to be build with taxes mayors etc.etc. which is very fun, but classic style combat, i call it &#8220;click and done&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lichbane</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7639</link>
		<dc:creator>Lichbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AoC, despite the fact it has an awful start, will actually be a REALLY good game in six to twelve months.  Unfortunately it&#039;s current state has been a bitter pill that I&#039;m pretty sure few will try to take again.

Funcom need to realise that that they can&#039;t refine their games AFTER launch.  They did it with AO and that was a disaster; now it&#039;s actually quite a good game, but people will  go back to it on gameplay alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AoC, despite the fact it has an awful start, will actually be a REALLY good game in six to twelve months.  Unfortunately it&#8217;s current state has been a bitter pill that I&#8217;m pretty sure few will try to take again.</p>
<p>Funcom need to realise that that they can&#8217;t refine their games AFTER launch.  They did it with AO and that was a disaster; now it&#8217;s actually quite a good game, but people will  go back to it on gameplay alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7635</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotro had to compete with Burning Crusade, AoC had nothing to compete with, and actually benefitted from thousands upon thousands of WoW subscribers who are bored.

AoC is balls.  I&#039;m one of the 400k who hasn&#039;t played in months but keep forgetting to cancel.  

50% retention is inflated.  its way less than that.  GFX are a major factor in people playing an MMO.  AoC is graphically superior to everything in existence save Crysis and still can&#039;t hold subscriptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotro had to compete with Burning Crusade, AoC had nothing to compete with, and actually benefitted from thousands upon thousands of WoW subscribers who are bored.</p>
<p>AoC is balls.  I&#8217;m one of the 400k who hasn&#8217;t played in months but keep forgetting to cancel.  </p>
<p>50% retention is inflated.  its way less than that.  GFX are a major factor in people playing an MMO.  AoC is graphically superior to everything in existence save Crysis and still can&#8217;t hold subscriptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan Shwayder, one of the things I noted is that the 400,000 is probably quite misleading and it&#039;s going to drop even further in the months ahead. Say the populaion halves again in the next few months. Are you really saying that companies are cheering and patting themselves on the back to have a mere 25% of the people who bought the game still subbed, six months after launch? That would be an epic fail in any other business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan Shwayder, one of the things I noted is that the 400,000 is probably quite misleading and it&#8217;s going to drop even further in the months ahead. Say the populaion halves again in the next few months. Are you really saying that companies are cheering and patting themselves on the back to have a mere 25% of the people who bought the game still subbed, six months after launch? That would be an epic fail in any other business.</p>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7592</link>
		<dc:creator>Openedge1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AoC is actually a bigger success than LOTRO, which is highly amusing to me.
A bigger license cannot get as many players as a failing, massively mucked up game.
LOTR should have been the one true MMO (sorry for the pun) to rock the boat for WoW.
It did not.
Yet, here is AoC with its screwed up mechanics and messy engine walking all over LOTRO in just the first month alone.
Truly sad.
WAR will do considerably better though.
AoC and LOTRO will share one thing. IP based games with a niche group of players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AoC is actually a bigger success than LOTRO, which is highly amusing to me.<br />
A bigger license cannot get as many players as a failing, massively mucked up game.<br />
LOTR should have been the one true MMO (sorry for the pun) to rock the boat for WoW.<br />
It did not.<br />
Yet, here is AoC with its screwed up mechanics and messy engine walking all over LOTRO in just the first month alone.<br />
Truly sad.<br />
WAR will do considerably better though.<br />
AoC and LOTRO will share one thing. IP based games with a niche group of players.</p>
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		<title>By: Anorax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anorax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still subbed to the end of October but I have gone back to WoW and LOTRO.  Everyone I knew has stopped playing AoC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still subbed to the end of October but I have gone back to WoW and LOTRO.  Everyone I knew has stopped playing AoC.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Shwayder</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Shwayder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>400,000 subscribers and 50% retention is actually pretty damn good. WoW retention may even be below or right around there in any given 3 month period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>400,000 subscribers and 50% retention is actually pretty damn good. WoW retention may even be below or right around there in any given 3 month period.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth_Mueller</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7537</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth_Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to forgett the subscribers, who gave FC one or two month time to bring the pvp system or fix the endgame and dont continue their subscription after the end of august, like me.

i know a lot of raid guilds with 60+ people who are now one-two man teams....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to forgett the subscribers, who gave FC one or two month time to bring the pvp system or fix the endgame and dont continue their subscription after the end of august, like me.</p>
<p>i know a lot of raid guilds with 60+ people who are now one-two man teams&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2008/08/25/aoc-yep-it-really-did-halve-its-population/comment-page-1/#comment-7522</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Ratched, the 400,000 people remain subbed... that&#039;s a lot different to being &quot;active&quot; subscribers. Some of them wouldn&#039;t be playing at all. Infact, I&#039;ve seen a lot of threads on the official AoC forums where people have searched all the game zones on their server and only found 200 people at peak times, etc. So clearly the game isn&#039;t going &quot;well&quot; in terms of users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Ratched, the 400,000 people remain subbed&#8230; that&#8217;s a lot different to being &#8220;active&#8221; subscribers. Some of them wouldn&#8217;t be playing at all. Infact, I&#8217;ve seen a lot of threads on the official AoC forums where people have searched all the game zones on their server and only found 200 people at peak times, etc. So clearly the game isn&#8217;t going &#8220;well&#8221; in terms of users.</p>
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