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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory is that blizzard employees (probably GMS) are the ones stealing these accounts.  They target inactive accounts with level 85 mages because they can teleport everywhere and be used for farming.  All others characters have their gear sold off or disenchanted then those characters are deleted for ingame spamvertising.  These corrupt employees either sell the account info to gold farmers or they out right own these gold selling sites themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory is that blizzard employees (probably GMS) are the ones stealing these accounts.  They target inactive accounts with level 85 mages because they can teleport everywhere and be used for farming.  All others characters have their gear sold off or disenchanted then those characters are deleted for ingame spamvertising.  These corrupt employees either sell the account info to gold farmers or they out right own these gold selling sites themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: JeriS</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-318816</link>
		<dc:creator>JeriS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been hacked everytime I suspend my account for very long. 

The real problem with Blizz is the way they handle suspended/cancelled accounts.  They don&#039;t do what would be standard practice for any other company handling massive user bases - MOVE dead accounts offline.  Instead, they leave them on the original, active servers.  Moving accounts back-and-forth between offline and online servers may be a pain (I know, I used to have to do it, on a much smaller scale -- it can rapidly become a logistical nightmare if the environment is very complex), but it&#039;s really the only way.  I hope Blizz is looking into a way to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been hacked everytime I suspend my account for very long. </p>
<p>The real problem with Blizz is the way they handle suspended/cancelled accounts.  They don&#8217;t do what would be standard practice for any other company handling massive user bases &#8211; MOVE dead accounts offline.  Instead, they leave them on the original, active servers.  Moving accounts back-and-forth between offline and online servers may be a pain (I know, I used to have to do it, on a much smaller scale &#8212; it can rapidly become a logistical nightmare if the environment is very complex), but it&#8217;s really the only way.  I hope Blizz is looking into a way to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Verdigo</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-316347</link>
		<dc:creator>Verdigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concer with Aaron. I also work in the financial industry and see 80+ credit card accounts per day. Sometimes more because the account has multiple credit cards. Yes call centers have rules for no pen\paper\cell phones but my managers are so busy they spend most of their time with their heads pointed at their own screens. People use their cell phones all the time while at their desk and get away with it. I&#039;ve had this theory for a long time and only recently decided to google it. Low and behold Im not alone. Either someone is selling info or blizzard&#039;s servers get hacked on a regular basis and they just dont tell anyone because they would lose so many plays so fast. They&#039;ve gotten so big they have to lie to keep their jobs. This same thing happens on Guild Wars with Arenanet. Plus if I haven&#039;t played the game in a year and my account gets blocked for spamming\gold farming then someone had to have added gametime to use my account. So why is there absolutly no mention of new gametime or trial time added to my account?? Simple....Inside job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concer with Aaron. I also work in the financial industry and see 80+ credit card accounts per day. Sometimes more because the account has multiple credit cards. Yes call centers have rules for no pen\paper\cell phones but my managers are so busy they spend most of their time with their heads pointed at their own screens. People use their cell phones all the time while at their desk and get away with it. I&#8217;ve had this theory for a long time and only recently decided to google it. Low and behold Im not alone. Either someone is selling info or blizzard&#8217;s servers get hacked on a regular basis and they just dont tell anyone because they would lose so many plays so fast. They&#8217;ve gotten so big they have to lie to keep their jobs. This same thing happens on Guild Wars with Arenanet. Plus if I haven&#8217;t played the game in a year and my account gets blocked for spamming\gold farming then someone had to have added gametime to use my account. So why is there absolutly no mention of new gametime or trial time added to my account?? Simple&#8230;.Inside job.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped playing wow last July and just a month ago or so my account was banned for gold farming.  Today I found out my credit card was cancelled by the bank for possible fraudulent charges.  Here&#039;s the thing...

The credit card that go stolen is the same card used on battle.net to pay for wow and NOTHING ELSE... EVER!!!!  I talked to the bank and she verified that there have been no charges on the card since last July when I stopped playing WoW.  The card never leaves the safe in my house and has never EVER and I repeat EVER been used for anything other than WoW.

I find it very odd that shortly after my account was stolen somoen tried to go on a shopping spree with the very same card only used for paying for WoW.  There is only one place they could have gotten both my card number and my 3 digit code is from Blizzard/battle.net since it&#039;s the only place I&#039;ve ever used it. 

Don&#039;t give me the &quot;you have a virus&quot; crap that logged my card number because that&#039;s crap... I opened my wow account years ago and that is the only time I&#039;ve ever typed in those numbers, when I first opened my account years ago so no keylogger stole my numbers and the person didn&#039;t wait until now to use my card.

An employee at either Blizzard or battle.net stole the info from the database OR Blizzard or battle.net was recently breached and they just haven&#039;t found out about it.  By law they need to report hacks but if they don&#039;t know then what would they have to report?

It&#039;s simple, some employee stole the info from the database and used it or sold it OR someone hacked them and stole my credit card info from them.

I work in the financial world and credit card info is stored in databases along with the security code for things like monthly charges.  Yes there are safeguards but have you ever needed to call the bank about a card?  The employee can see all your card numbers and security codes and the same thing is possible for people working close with the databases.  I have access to finanacial databases for my job and I see the info all the time so I know what I&#039;m tlaking about.  It sucks that some employee is doing this if thats the case and it sucks that they don&#039;t know they have a data breach if that is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped playing wow last July and just a month ago or so my account was banned for gold farming.  Today I found out my credit card was cancelled by the bank for possible fraudulent charges.  Here&#8217;s the thing&#8230;</p>
<p>The credit card that go stolen is the same card used on battle.net to pay for wow and NOTHING ELSE&#8230; EVER!!!!  I talked to the bank and she verified that there have been no charges on the card since last July when I stopped playing WoW.  The card never leaves the safe in my house and has never EVER and I repeat EVER been used for anything other than WoW.</p>
<p>I find it very odd that shortly after my account was stolen somoen tried to go on a shopping spree with the very same card only used for paying for WoW.  There is only one place they could have gotten both my card number and my 3 digit code is from Blizzard/battle.net since it&#8217;s the only place I&#8217;ve ever used it. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give me the &#8220;you have a virus&#8221; crap that logged my card number because that&#8217;s crap&#8230; I opened my wow account years ago and that is the only time I&#8217;ve ever typed in those numbers, when I first opened my account years ago so no keylogger stole my numbers and the person didn&#8217;t wait until now to use my card.</p>
<p>An employee at either Blizzard or battle.net stole the info from the database OR Blizzard or battle.net was recently breached and they just haven&#8217;t found out about it.  By law they need to report hacks but if they don&#8217;t know then what would they have to report?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple, some employee stole the info from the database and used it or sold it OR someone hacked them and stole my credit card info from them.</p>
<p>I work in the financial world and credit card info is stored in databases along with the security code for things like monthly charges.  Yes there are safeguards but have you ever needed to call the bank about a card?  The employee can see all your card numbers and security codes and the same thing is possible for people working close with the databases.  I have access to finanacial databases for my job and I see the info all the time so I know what I&#8217;m tlaking about.  It sucks that some employee is doing this if thats the case and it sucks that they don&#8217;t know they have a data breach if that is the case.</p>
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		<title>By: mikez</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314869</link>
		<dc:creator>mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate blizzard they take there time with account recovery I have an authenticator and It got removed then another one got put on in the space of 2 hours ffs and I agree it is possible and likely blizzard are hacking and selling accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate blizzard they take there time with account recovery I have an authenticator and It got removed then another one got put on in the space of 2 hours ffs and I agree it is possible and likely blizzard are hacking and selling accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314585</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If blizzard are selling gold, they want as little inflation in the game as possible, that&#039;s why they hack people instead of just making it out of thin air(if they hack people who hae already quit playing then there&#039;s a chance that they wont recover their lost items=no inflation) and if they&#039;r selling accounts then they cant make new once just like that because like any other company they have to be able to pass an inspection. Im not saying blizzard are selling gold/accounts, im just saying it&#039;s not stupid to belive so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If blizzard are selling gold, they want as little inflation in the game as possible, that&#8217;s why they hack people instead of just making it out of thin air(if they hack people who hae already quit playing then there&#8217;s a chance that they wont recover their lost items=no inflation) and if they&#8217;r selling accounts then they cant make new once just like that because like any other company they have to be able to pass an inspection. Im not saying blizzard are selling gold/accounts, im just saying it&#8217;s not stupid to belive so.</p>
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		<title>By: beijingyank</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314560</link>
		<dc:creator>beijingyank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add my name to the list of hacked accounts with the authenticator. Oh my...sure starts to look like an &quot;inside job.&quot; 

Nah...it&#039;s a conspiracy theory, the air is safe to breath and the water is safe to drink...nuclear power is clean and efficient...Oswald shot JFK, Sirhan Sirhan killed Bobby, 47 story steel reinforced buildings come down at free fall speed do to office fires...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add my name to the list of hacked accounts with the authenticator. Oh my&#8230;sure starts to look like an &#8220;inside job.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nah&#8230;it&#8217;s a conspiracy theory, the air is safe to breath and the water is safe to drink&#8230;nuclear power is clean and efficient&#8230;Oswald shot JFK, Sirhan Sirhan killed Bobby, 47 story steel reinforced buildings come down at free fall speed do to office fires&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Wolfenden</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314532</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Wolfenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that Blizzard Entertainment (or even Activision Blizzard) is performing gold selling is a conspiracy theory at best.

At 12m subs paying say 13 dollars per month (which is probably optimist given the pricing models for Asia and Latin America) is 1.8b per year in revenue. If the entire gold selling industry is 1b across all games it is probably not worth the cost in customer maintenance for Blizzard to consider it.

Also, they control the entire game so if they really wanted to do gold selling they could just make money out of thin air, like governments, and sell that without the customer service expenditure at all. This was mentioned by someone above.

Regarding hacking and the authenticator, there is no such thing as a foolproof security setup, there is always a way to get around it and all it requires is time, patience and ingenuity (be it technical or social ingenuity.) The man-in-the-middle attack is a very real problem and existed long before WoW came about, it is one of the best ways to defeat the security of SSH encrypted tunnels for those who do not read warnings about key mismatches and eliminates all of the security of data encryption. The tactic in the case of WoW would involve either updating a local hosts file or DNS cache poisoning. The first is more trivial compared to the latter however the latter can score many accounts at once versus the former only getting one person&#039;s account(s).

The authenticator makes it more difficult over all since it takes away the time and patience elements of hacking and requires mostly ingenuity to pull off. It is not foolproof since the man-in-the-middle attack can be effective against it, also I am under the impression if the email address that the Battle.net account is tied to is hacked the authenticator will not help you there either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that Blizzard Entertainment (or even Activision Blizzard) is performing gold selling is a conspiracy theory at best.</p>
<p>At 12m subs paying say 13 dollars per month (which is probably optimist given the pricing models for Asia and Latin America) is 1.8b per year in revenue. If the entire gold selling industry is 1b across all games it is probably not worth the cost in customer maintenance for Blizzard to consider it.</p>
<p>Also, they control the entire game so if they really wanted to do gold selling they could just make money out of thin air, like governments, and sell that without the customer service expenditure at all. This was mentioned by someone above.</p>
<p>Regarding hacking and the authenticator, there is no such thing as a foolproof security setup, there is always a way to get around it and all it requires is time, patience and ingenuity (be it technical or social ingenuity.) The man-in-the-middle attack is a very real problem and existed long before WoW came about, it is one of the best ways to defeat the security of SSH encrypted tunnels for those who do not read warnings about key mismatches and eliminates all of the security of data encryption. The tactic in the case of WoW would involve either updating a local hosts file or DNS cache poisoning. The first is more trivial compared to the latter however the latter can score many accounts at once versus the former only getting one person&#8217;s account(s).</p>
<p>The authenticator makes it more difficult over all since it takes away the time and patience elements of hacking and requires mostly ingenuity to pull off. It is not foolproof since the man-in-the-middle attack can be effective against it, also I am under the impression if the email address that the Battle.net account is tied to is hacked the authenticator will not help you there either.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314484</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 06:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here, Pompom! I&#039;m somewhat relieved that others are having the same problem as me, but now I&#039;m somewhat concerned something funny is going on at Blizzard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here, Pompom! I&#8217;m somewhat relieved that others are having the same problem as me, but now I&#8217;m somewhat concerned something funny is going on at Blizzard.</p>
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		<title>By: Pompom</title>
		<link>http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/02/28/world-of-warcraft-authenticator-hacked/comment-page-3/#comment-314434</link>
		<dc:creator>Pompom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously Blizzard the company aren&#039;t selling details, that would be insane. 

But I&#039;m an old school player who tends to reactivate my account once a year a so for a few months to play for a bit &amp; get bored again. But each time for the last three years my account is taken over 3-6 months after the sub runs out, so something weird is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously Blizzard the company aren&#8217;t selling details, that would be insane. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m an old school player who tends to reactivate my account once a year a so for a few months to play for a bit &amp; get bored again. But each time for the last three years my account is taken over 3-6 months after the sub runs out, so something weird is going on.</p>
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